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I agonized for a month before settling on this saw. I saw reviews from a couple of years ago that this saw suffered from blade alignment issues, but since those reviews the problem seems to have been solved. I had no setup issues. The assembly instructions are very clear, and all parts bags are labeled. The blade was square to the miter slots with no adjustment necessary. The fence on this is really great. I've upgraded from an older Craftsman with the crappy fence, you know the one. This is much better. I really like the integrated wheels. I have a small shop and moving the saw around is painless.
So glad I listened to Jim at your store. This saw is fabulous. It meets my needs and am having so much fun with it. it's solid and does accurate cuts. I was originally going to purchase a movable saw but after talking to Jim I decided this was the way to go. I really hate that my father in laws antique saw stopped working but this one is a great replacement. I usually buy Craftsman and always have. It's not because I work for Kmart it's just that all m;y Craftsman tools work great. Even the one I replaced was bought from Sears I believe over 60 years ago..
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Like most budget minded folks I am not in a financial position to run out and purchase the latest and greatest cabinet saw available, so I settled with the 21833. Even though it wasnt my first choice I figured this would be an excellent saw for the money and I was excited to have it but boy was I wrong. First the assembly instructions arent the worst but could use some better pictures and explanations. It took me quite a while to put this saw together and it still isnt true. The steel extension tables droop, while I used a straight edge and jointed the edges perfectly with cast iron table the droop is quite significant. No shims or instructions are provided to correct the droop. The fence will not stay straight and true and I must spend the frustrating time to tap this fence into place before each and every single cut. The blade that came with this is not the nice one pictured with the saw and it came warped! When you raise the saw blade up and down you can watch the saw blade sort of wiggle around so it also requires measuring the saw blade to the miter slot every time you make any heighth adjustments. And unless you feel like adjusting the 'hard to adjust trunnions' with every cut and leave off the back panel to access the trunnions you may find it best to just leave it at a certain height. The riving knife is difficult to true and bends easier than it should especially with it raised all the way up. I experienced some serious binding issues with this saw it burns wood like crazy and filled the garage up with smoke leaving gouges in the wood and is in my opinion very dangerous. I have had my wife help me with the build and I have had two cousins and neighbor help me with trying to true this saw and when you think you got it, you bump something and its off again. So I am not sure what to due with this thing. I spent all I had to spare on this saw. I certainly cant afford to replace the fence and fix everything else that is wrong with it nor do I want to. Otherwise I would have purchased a cabinet saw since it would cost the same in the end. I have had it less than a month and right now its just a sad reminder of what a poor decision it was to purchase. I had grand plans that are on hold because owning this is the same as not owning a table saw at all because it is essentially useless. Also the blade insert tips towards the back because there is no screw to support it. You just push the back of the insert with your finger and down it goes. This saw aint nothing but a poser, it looks bad and mean and has weight to it but its nothing but a hunk of junk. This saw purchase seriously made me super depressed because of the sacrifices my wife and kids made for me to be able to purchase this saw. Dont buy it guy's do yourself the favor and get a used powermatic or a new grizzly for just a few hundred more.
I bougfht this saw to replace my 8 year old Craftsman (similar to model 21807) because I needed the added capacity to handle wider boards. Overall it is a good saw, but there are a few minor issues in my opinion. First, there is no outfeed support for boards as they extend past the blade. Next, the blade is set rather far in from the front edge, again at least compared to my older saw, so that you often need to lean over the top of the saw....AND THE SPINNING BLADE....as you finish your cut because you need to hold both pieces or let one fall free...again, because of the lack of an outfeed support....making it a bit unsafe. Lastly, and the most disappointing to me is that the motor/belt driven blade seems underpowered at least compared to the direct drive of my older saw. I do most of my work with mahogany, and I have had the blade come to a DEAD STOP while trying to rip a 3/4" thick piece of wood, something I never experienced on my older saw. But still, overall, I like the saw, as it is much more quiet than my old one, and I like the bottom dust exhaust chute.
Amazing Saw! Weighs a ton though. Put it together in 3 hours with the help my father, then went to cutting. We cut plywood, 2x4 and 5/4 oak without the saw slowing down. The blade that's sent with it is perfect for rough sawing, but I plan on putting on a 60 tooth for final sawing. It's an amazing saw for the money, so happy I went with craftsman! Would buy again!!!
Gulf Breeze, FL
Unlike others who post reviews as their product comes out of the box, I have owned this saw for over three years. I am very pleased with this saw and have been, right after I finished putting it together. Some thoughts: 1. Out of the box, I had the saw squared up and ready to go in minutes. 2. The saw is able to rip long pieces of lumber smoothly. Only when using pressure-treated lumber does it slow a bit. At these times I remember that "patience is a virtue" and I did not purchase a $1000+ saw. 3. The wheels are solid and easily maneuver the saw around my shop or out the door. 4. The fence slides like the rails are buttered and easily locks in place using the adjustment screws. I have never experienced drift during/after cuts. 5. Reaching into the saw, it's a little tight for me to get my Freud dado stack installed. I can do it, but the space could be a little roomier. 6. Don't set a cup with condensation on the metal top (non-painted area). It will rust a cup-ring. I don't know if this is due to the quality of the steel or not, as mentioned in other reviews. 7. I have also seen many reviews that highlight the assembly of this product. Yes, it is a bit challenging. I had to jimmy the table onto the base by loosening all the "red" leg portions and then re-tightening them. Other than that, it is just a bit difficult to maneuver the sheer weight of the saw during the assembly process. I purchased this table saw on sale, with a 10% off coupon. I walked out of the store for about $475 (in 2011). After my father, a lifelong woodworker, visited my shop, he went home and purchased the same saw. He too struggled with the assembly, but is just as pleased as I have been with the saw's performance. In the end, I have found this to be an outstanding saw at a price that allows non-professionals (or the non-wealthy) to enjoy having a tool that they can count upon to get the job done.
It's the contractor saw that has become the workshop saw that I use nearly every day. It takes a dado blade so I can build almost anything with this saw. With a good blade in there I hardly need to sand after I cut. It's a great saw. I've included this saw into my shop in such a way that I'm able to rip full sheets of 4 X 8 stock on it. And, with the rip blade I have in the saw, there is nothing to it.
Really disappointed in my new Sears Craftsman Table Saw (351.218330). I have an older Sears Craftsman Table saw (113.241691) that I purchased back in the mid 1980?s. This old saw works great. I had an idea that since I was now retired and would be doing more hobby wood working that I should upgrade my saw. I purchased this new saw in July 2014, put it in the garage and never turned it on until Dec 2014 ? going to make a few Christmas presents for my grandchildren. Boy was I surprised, I have spent hours trying to get the new saw true. I am not new to wood working. I have a Sears Craftsman Radial Saw (113.197750) purchased in 1978, a Sears Craftsman 12 in Band Saw (113.243311) purchased in 1985, a host of other Craftsman hand tools. These old tools are still working just like new and will hold a true cut. Looks like this new Craftsman Table Saw is going to just be a rough cut saw and a table for junk ? cannot trust it to cut true. I wish I had used this saw in the first month that I purchased it. If I had I would have taken it back. My bad for believing in a brand. Appears Sears Craftsman tools are dropping in quality.
I bought this saw after thinking about buying one for a long time. I wanted a saw with a good stable base, large enough table top to support the item being cut at a reasonable price. Compared to other movable saws, this top is a fair size then others. Although, the saw is heavy, and moves good around the shop floor with the wheels, it is not easly moved from a truck to work site. But it is not that kind of saw. So, for working a shop, and wanting to move it from time to time, and have a good solid base to work from, this is a good saw for the money. ALSO, the guide fence is pretty accurate, just set it using the guide scale and it will be pretty true. Only bad, the directions was not clear and it took about 8 hours to assemble.
This saw is amazing. Very solid, well built, and with focus and attention on fine adjustments during the assembly process, it is highly accurate. The only thing I'm still trying to adjust is the fence. The fence has leveling screws but all they seem to do is make the fence ride tight after it's level. I added some strips of painters tape and made it level but eventually I will replace it with an aftermarket fence, like Biesmeyer. But now the fence is square and the saw performs beautifully. Definitely a great centerpiece for my shop.
After a time cutting with this saw I can tell you it is excellent for plywood, MDF and softwoods . There is no vibration , its silent, and the ON/OFF switch very well located and convenient. It is a very safe machine when all attachments are used properly. I really like using it. I was a little disappointed when I cut hardwoods or large sections. the engine seems to be less than what it says (comparing it with other saws) I have reviewed many times the cutting guide , the angle , I even changed the replacement saw disk and nothing seems to change. The saw slows down or even stops when cutting 2x4 pine wood. You have to cut it very slow, and that burns the wood some times. I'll think of a saw with more power in the future for hardwoods, may be in some other brand.
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Palm Springs, CA
I'm having trouble getting the ripping fence adjusted, the mechanism is pretty Mickey Mouse, and the riving knife doesn't line up perfectly sometimes. I called Sears and they sent a guy over and he agreed, authorizing about $150 in parts to be sent, including the entire aluminum box frame, and the damaged aluminum guide rail in front. That was in May, four telephone calls later and I'm told the parts probably aren't coming before the one year warranty runs out and a replacement offer will cost me almost $250 more, or 50% more. Take it or leave it. Now the saw is worse, self destructing a little more each time I move the fence. Never again Sears. This saw is priced very low so you can expect some minor problems, but when they happen, the warranty process is only for show and will just waste hours of time and make you a lot more angry.
For projects around the house this saw works great. Should be easier to setup but when that is done it works well. Its has really big boxes if you don't have a pick up truck think about having it delivered.
I have owned this saw for about 6 months now. I was pleasantly surprised with the sturdy base and minimal vibration when the saw is running. The casters make moving the saw a breeze. I don't have a dedicated shop so having my machinery on wheels is a must. Assembly is reasonably easy if you read and follow the directions. There are times that you will need assistance such as unpacking the saw and setting the saw upright. The installation of the fence rails on the outboard side of the saw can be tricky due to limited space to get washers, nuts and wrenches. My advice is to be patient and know most similar saw from other manufacturers has the same issue. The fence is higher quality than I expected. It moves smoothly across the table, is elevated from the table and locks firmly in place. I did have to shim the fence to get it parallel to the miter slot. My fence was far enough out that the limited fine adjustment was not enough. With a little work my fence is within .005 inches over its length. Out of the box the blade was parallel to the miter slot (within .002 side to side and as the blade is raised). I had read other reviews indicating that this could be a problem, however I did not find this to be the case. My advice is to purchase a saw gauge, or make one like I did to take these measurements. It is critical to make sure everything is aligned before operating the saw (this is no different from any saw you would purchase). The miter gauge is adequate for cross cutting small stock. It is not adequate if you want to cut accurate angles. Again, this is pretty much true for all stock miter gauges. I have since replaced the miter gauge with an after market miter gauge. The in closed base helps keep the dust down. I have not hooked this saw up to a dust collector but I plan on doing so in the future. Know that you need to clean out the dust box after use. Saw dust tends to build up inside the cabinet (standard good main thence practice ). I will admit that having to remove six hex screws to do this is a bit tedious. I will replace the hex screws with something a bit move convenient in the future. Overall, a great saw for the wood worker that has space limitations. I am pleased with my purchase.
Wanting a small, portable saw that would handle ripping 2x4s and basic job site work, this was a great buy. The base is really heavy duty and the saw has handled the work thrown at it easily, even in 104 degree temperatures sitting outside in the heat and dust.
The directions were pretty good, but there are some issues with the assembly. I think when you put the wheels on, it would be easier to put the axles on first, and the put the wheels on the axle. The blade was close enough, only off about .001. The fence was crooked, so I loosened the 2 alien head bolts on the top of the bar and got that aligned. The screws in the front only seem to tighten the fence to the rail. The blade insert was set to low, had to get longer 5mm bolts and add a shim. I checked the belt tension very early in the game. The miter gauge grooves in the table are wider on the left side than the right side, so the gauge is a little loose on the left. The whole assembly took about 5 hours and I have assembled several things over the years. It would seem that every saw is a little different! It's not a precision machine, but it could be close with a little more time spent on adjustments. I have not used it much yet, but seems to work well. I am happy so far! More later after I have used it longer.
This table saw is AWESOME. I have had and still do a radial arm saw and a smaller bench top 10" table saw. I was making drawers for my kitchen cabinets and just could not get the accuracy OR had problems if cutting large stock (on radial arm saw). So either or. I started looking for a better/larger table saw and they are plentiful for 1000$ and up. I got this on sale for less than 1/2 that. I discovered the following: If you take your time, you can set this saw up so that it is very very accurate. It makes nice square cuts, and doesn't have heeling, kickbacks or other issues. The dust system is very simple, in fact, it works so well I disconnected it from my dust collector. The saw dust falls straight down into a funnel in the bottom I put a bucket under it and when its full, it goes in the compost pile or garden. The dust collector did only slightly better, but its noisy. This leads me to my one minor complaint and that is even with a dust collector (vacuum to clarify) lots of saw dust collects on table and work. Some expensive saws have system that comes down through blade guard etc, whatever. I just keep a little shop brush handy and brush down through blade, (then down into my bucket). The vacuum didn't get any of top dust, so I unhooked. The saw is powerful, and the table large enough to do sheet of plywood (with effort) but I had NO CHANCE to ever consider that. I couldn't cut anything more than about 18" because radial arm would not extend that far out and little table saw fence only went to about 15-16" This saw does it all, dado, large stock, accurate cuts, and power. I love it and for the price? WOW what are you going to suggest in place of it for under 500? There is NOTHING. This is an excellent value and an excellent saw. If you are thinking of stepping up to a bigger better saw? GO FOR IT. Disregard some of the reviews, some people compare this to a 3500 cabinet saw and thats ridiculous. For the price you cannot beat this and even saws costing 1000$ dont always compete. Its a great buy and a great saw. I love it. Best purchase I ever made, my woodworking has improved 100% and the scope and kinds of projects are now limited only by my improving skill and time available. I can do anything I need to do with this saw. Definitely a "5".
Comes in a million pieces. Be sure to have enough time in order to get it put together. Very sturdy. The fence works really good and keeps the boards straight. Nice quality and works great.
This saw is what I wanted and expected. At almost 300 lbs it is a bit of a beast, but it works well. I would have given it 5 stars, except the fence is way off and I cannot adjust it. The run out was more than 3/16 of an inch. but by the time you try to adjust the fence, you are clamped tight to the rail and cannot move the fence. Alignment was not a problem as the saw came preadjusted and using my dial indicator was impressed with the setup. . Power of this machine is nice. I work with Black walnut and cypress woods and this saw cut both with ease. There is no vibration, and saw noise is greatly reduced. By the way, my old saw was probably a 75 year old Craftsman contractor saw, all cast iron with an external motor. I have rebuilt it twice and it's on its second motor. It also is on its second blade arbor and a month ago, the blade developed a slight wobble. Sign that it was loosing a bearing again. Enough was enough. Because my shop is small and after research, I got this saw for $450.00 It moves around easily, perfect for my shop. Was worth the buy and I'll warranty the new fence today.